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		<title>By: Kalin dudley</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/ask-ppc-hero-ppc-geo-targeting-best-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-48818</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalin dudley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megan, 

You will most likely see differences in your CPC when you have duplicated terms in different campaigns that will be targeting different geos.  Unless you are also running a National campaign, you will not bid against yourself which is always the issue with the duplicated terms approach.  

The beauty of using geo-specific campaigns is that different terms will give you different results based on:

- What the interest is in that geo
- Bidding Pricing
- Your ad copy/landing page strategy

I had a client who sold sports apparel and we would use geo-targeting so that we could be more aggressive on sports coats/jackets in the north while lowering positioning in the south.  This improved the ROAS drastically....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megan, </p>
<p>You will most likely see differences in your CPC when you have duplicated terms in different campaigns that will be targeting different geos.  Unless you are also running a National campaign, you will not bid against yourself which is always the issue with the duplicated terms approach.  </p>
<p>The beauty of using geo-specific campaigns is that different terms will give you different results based on:</p>
<p>- What the interest is in that geo<br />
- Bidding Pricing<br />
- Your ad copy/landing page strategy</p>
<p>I had a client who sold sports apparel and we would use geo-targeting so that we could be more aggressive on sports coats/jackets in the north while lowering positioning in the south.  This improved the ROAS drastically&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/ask-ppc-hero-ppc-geo-targeting-best-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-48741</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

What is the experience here with duplicate keywords across multiple geo-targeted campaigns? 

Obviously the metrics will report differently based on location based differnces, but are there any other draw backs you&#039;ve noticed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>What is the experience here with duplicate keywords across multiple geo-targeted campaigns? </p>
<p>Obviously the metrics will report differently based on location based differnces, but are there any other draw backs you&#8217;ve noticed</p>
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		<title>By: Chicago SEO Consultant &#124; Search Marketing Chicago &#124; Chicago SEM Consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicago SEO Consultant &#124; Search Marketing Chicago &#124; Chicago SEM Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eloi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eloi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ John
No probs, I love the blog! I do absolutely love geo-targetting, because when done right you get huge CTRs! I try and implement it everywhere I can :D

Good luck Jessica and George!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John<br />
No probs, I love the blog! I do absolutely love geo-targetting, because when done right you get huge CTRs! I try and implement it everywhere I can <img src='http://www.ppchero.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck Jessica and George!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ George,

The readers have spoken!  The 3 comments following your own all contain helpful information.  I&#039;m with Eloi on this one, however, in that I feel you will have the most accurate reporting and control over your targeting by creating separate campaigns for each area you are geo-targeting.

@ Kalin,

Thanks for your input!  You are absolutely correct that geo-targeting doesn&#039;t stop with campaign settings and organization - you must follow through with location-specific text in the ad copy.  And why stop there?  Your landing page should reflect the go-targeting as well.  This is a perfect reminder of the symbiotic relationship between account-keyword-ad-landing page.  They all have to work together.

@ Eloi,

Thanks for jumping in and sharing your expertise again.  I get the feeling that geo-targeting is one of your favorite aspects of PPC!  : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ George,</p>
<p>The readers have spoken!  The 3 comments following your own all contain helpful information.  I&#8217;m with Eloi on this one, however, in that I feel you will have the most accurate reporting and control over your targeting by creating separate campaigns for each area you are geo-targeting.</p>
<p>@ Kalin,</p>
<p>Thanks for your input!  You are absolutely correct that geo-targeting doesn&#8217;t stop with campaign settings and organization &#8211; you must follow through with location-specific text in the ad copy.  And why stop there?  Your landing page should reflect the go-targeting as well.  This is a perfect reminder of the symbiotic relationship between account-keyword-ad-landing page.  They all have to work together.</p>
<p>@ Eloi,</p>
<p>Thanks for jumping in and sharing your expertise again.  I get the feeling that geo-targeting is one of your favorite aspects of PPC!  : )</p>
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		<title>By: Eloi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eloi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know if I unerstood correctly your question George, but in terms of seeing this information, the anwser is in the question: 

If you have one campagin targeting all of these locations, then you would see data for those keywords, for all the locations. Having several campaigns for each city will allow you to see/compare data individually (data from San Diego vs data from LA vs Data from Palm Springs) whilst also presenting the searcher with a more tailored ad, which will help the QS.

However, in terms of quality score, it is now attributed at every search (as opposed to just looking back at your account history&#039;s information)... I have a feeling that if San Diegans click your ads more, then you might get a better QS (position) over there, once Google detects their IP. 

But the fact of having several campaigns with tailored ads should increase the performance and QS of your campaign much more anyways, so I recommend the multi campaign approach. Even though it&#039;s 3x the optimisation work :D (or however many campaigns you have).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know if I unerstood correctly your question George, but in terms of seeing this information, the anwser is in the question: </p>
<p>If you have one campagin targeting all of these locations, then you would see data for those keywords, for all the locations. Having several campaigns for each city will allow you to see/compare data individually (data from San Diego vs data from LA vs Data from Palm Springs) whilst also presenting the searcher with a more tailored ad, which will help the QS.</p>
<p>However, in terms of quality score, it is now attributed at every search (as opposed to just looking back at your account history&#8217;s information)&#8230; I have a feeling that if San Diegans click your ads more, then you might get a better QS (position) over there, once Google detects their IP. </p>
<p>But the fact of having several campaigns with tailored ads should increase the performance and QS of your campaign much more anyways, so I recommend the multi campaign approach. Even though it&#8217;s 3x the optimisation work <img src='http://www.ppchero.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  (or however many campaigns you have).</p>
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		<title>By: Kalin Dudley</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/ask-ppc-hero-ppc-geo-targeting-best-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-23698</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalin Dudley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best Geo-Targeting practices are really in the ad copy, this is where most businesses fail to highlight the fact that they are targeting local areas.  I have seen many cases where campaigns and keywords are set to target specific areas however the ad copy fails to highlight the local targeting.  An example of this, look at any local lawfirm which fails to use the following ad copy strategy:

- Local Business Ads which highlight the location of the firm
- Use of the City or State in the ad copy
- Local Phone Number instead of 800 number

These simple techniques in ad copy can take a normal regionally targeted campaign and really take it to the next level.  Why set up a campaign to target an area specifically then fail to have your ad copy highlight the area?  Just some food for thought, love the blog guys!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best Geo-Targeting practices are really in the ad copy, this is where most businesses fail to highlight the fact that they are targeting local areas.  I have seen many cases where campaigns and keywords are set to target specific areas however the ad copy fails to highlight the local targeting.  An example of this, look at any local lawfirm which fails to use the following ad copy strategy:</p>
<p>- Local Business Ads which highlight the location of the firm<br />
- Use of the City or State in the ad copy<br />
- Local Phone Number instead of 800 number</p>
<p>These simple techniques in ad copy can take a normal regionally targeted campaign and really take it to the next level.  Why set up a campaign to target an area specifically then fail to have your ad copy highlight the area?  Just some food for thought, love the blog guys!!</p>
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		<title>By: OnlineMediaLimited</title>
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		<dc:creator>OnlineMediaLimited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question George - in terms of seeing differing results - thats a hard one to call.

It would make sense to have a single one because of budget management and the ability to say have negative terms at campaign level (if required). Due to having different budgets per campaign - this might affect volume of impressions? 

Also if you alter the day parting (not sure if any of the Southern California would be in different time regions) you might see different min bids at different times of the day in the different regions - having 1 campaign would not allow this obviously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question George &#8211; in terms of seeing differing results &#8211; thats a hard one to call.</p>
<p>It would make sense to have a single one because of budget management and the ability to say have negative terms at campaign level (if required). Due to having different budgets per campaign &#8211; this might affect volume of impressions? </p>
<p>Also if you alter the day parting (not sure if any of the Southern California would be in different time regions) you might see different min bids at different times of the day in the different regions &#8211; having 1 campaign would not allow this obviously?</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were to geo-target a single campaign to all of southern california by choosing LA metro, San Diego metro, and any other metro areas that would blanket southern california, would I see different quality scores, min bids, impressions, etc, opposed to if I were to create say 4 of the same campaigns with each one targeting a specific metro area in southern california?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were to geo-target a single campaign to all of southern california by choosing LA metro, San Diego metro, and any other metro areas that would blanket southern california, would I see different quality scores, min bids, impressions, etc, opposed to if I were to create say 4 of the same campaigns with each one targeting a specific metro area in southern california?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jaan,

You&#039;re right that IP will likely drive more traffic.  I&#039;ve found this is typically because I can run broad match or phrase match in those campaigns knowing that I&#039;m still targeting the right searchers with my geographic settings!

@ Eloi,

Thanks for the additional feedback!  I totally agree that building your geo targeted campaigns with a new campaign for each location offers a scalable solution and gives you the most control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jaan,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that IP will likely drive more traffic.  I&#8217;ve found this is typically because I can run broad match or phrase match in those campaigns knowing that I&#8217;m still targeting the right searchers with my geographic settings!</p>
<p>@ Eloi,</p>
<p>Thanks for the additional feedback!  I totally agree that building your geo targeted campaigns with a new campaign for each location offers a scalable solution and gives you the most control.</p>
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