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	<title>Comments on: How Does Moving a Keyword Effect Your Quality Score in Google AdWords?</title>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-09-24</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/how-does-moving-a-keyword-effect-your-quality-score-in-google-adwords/comment-page-1/#comment-55893</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-09-24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How Does Moving a Keyword Effect Your Quality Score in Google AdWords? &#124; The Adventures of PPC Hero The historical Quality Score for a particular keyword does transfer when the term is moved into a new ad group. However, keep in mind that when you move a keyword you can temporarily reset its Quality Score, therefore negatively effecting your ad position and overall performance. (tags: adwords ppc keywords qualityscore google) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How Does Moving a Keyword Effect Your Quality Score in Google AdWords? | The Adventures of PPC Hero The historical Quality Score for a particular keyword does transfer when the term is moved into a new ad group. However, keep in mind that when you move a keyword you can temporarily reset its Quality Score, therefore negatively effecting your ad position and overall performance. (tags: adwords ppc keywords qualityscore google) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier Mullie</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/how-does-moving-a-keyword-effect-your-quality-score-in-google-adwords/comment-page-1/#comment-53654</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Mullie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joe,

Just noticed that the keyword I had moved, once again has a Q.S. of 10. So the Q.S. was very temporary. What did happen though is that somehow the min. First Page Bid is now 0.35 instead of 0.25 in the old ad group. So while the Q.S reverted, the min. First Page Bid did not. This may be a coincidence obviously and due to other factors (like maybe a new competitor who just started bidding on that keyword in the last couple of hours).

Regards
Olivier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe,</p>
<p>Just noticed that the keyword I had moved, once again has a Q.S. of 10. So the Q.S. was very temporary. What did happen though is that somehow the min. First Page Bid is now 0.35 instead of 0.25 in the old ad group. So while the Q.S reverted, the min. First Page Bid did not. This may be a coincidence obviously and due to other factors (like maybe a new competitor who just started bidding on that keyword in the last couple of hours).</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Olivier</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier Mullie</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/how-does-moving-a-keyword-effect-your-quality-score-in-google-adwords/comment-page-1/#comment-53630</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Mullie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joe,

Typically when I &#039;peel and stick&#039; keywords into their own ad groups, they do indeed lose some quality score + min. bid goes up. Just did it now for one and the Q.S. went down from 10 to 7 while the min. bid went up from 0.25 to 0.40. I agree that typically this should self-correct but I haven&#039;t personally monitored the exact (or average) time it takes though. I do have trouble understanding why the Adwords System doesn&#039;t automatically transfer the historical Q.S. since you usually copy/paste the best performing ad into the new ad group so it has that data already. The temporary &quot;glitch&quot; therefore seems hard to explain from a practical point of view.

My conclusion would be to be as granular as possible from the start so that most keywords don&#039;t have to be moved at all. Performance can be boosted in the existing ad group by split testing against new ads and/or new landing pages. That way, you preserve your original Q.S. 100% of the time (unless of course one of the newly tested ads does particularly badly in terms of ctr and does so for a long time).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe,</p>
<p>Typically when I &#8216;peel and stick&#8217; keywords into their own ad groups, they do indeed lose some quality score + min. bid goes up. Just did it now for one and the Q.S. went down from 10 to 7 while the min. bid went up from 0.25 to 0.40. I agree that typically this should self-correct but I haven&#8217;t personally monitored the exact (or average) time it takes though. I do have trouble understanding why the Adwords System doesn&#8217;t automatically transfer the historical Q.S. since you usually copy/paste the best performing ad into the new ad group so it has that data already. The temporary &#8220;glitch&#8221; therefore seems hard to explain from a practical point of view.</p>
<p>My conclusion would be to be as granular as possible from the start so that most keywords don&#8217;t have to be moved at all. Performance can be boosted in the existing ad group by split testing against new ads and/or new landing pages. That way, you preserve your original Q.S. 100% of the time (unless of course one of the newly tested ads does particularly badly in terms of ctr and does so for a long time).</p>
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		<title>By: Akin Tosyali</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/how-does-moving-a-keyword-effect-your-quality-score-in-google-adwords/comment-page-1/#comment-50951</link>
		<dc:creator>Akin Tosyali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you move a KW to a new ad group, you should bid it 20% higher for about 10,000 impressions, and then slowly reduce the bid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you move a KW to a new ad group, you should bid it 20% higher for about 10,000 impressions, and then slowly reduce the bid.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/how-does-moving-a-keyword-effect-your-quality-score-in-google-adwords/comment-page-1/#comment-47215</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Joe. While you should try not to move keywords if things are running well, sometimes you have to.

For example if you have a large adgroup and some keywords have lower q-scores, pulling them into new tight individual adgroups with a very targeted ad to the term can pimp the q-score without even touching the landing page.

Or if you inherit an account that was never set up correctly from the beginning, you may have to move keywords around to improve long-term performance. 1 step back, 2 steps forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Joe. While you should try not to move keywords if things are running well, sometimes you have to.</p>
<p>For example if you have a large adgroup and some keywords have lower q-scores, pulling them into new tight individual adgroups with a very targeted ad to the term can pimp the q-score without even touching the landing page.</p>
<p>Or if you inherit an account that was never set up correctly from the beginning, you may have to move keywords around to improve long-term performance. 1 step back, 2 steps forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Commins</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/how-does-moving-a-keyword-effect-your-quality-score-in-google-adwords/comment-page-1/#comment-46821</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Commins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Restructuring your account is something you should do if you have low quality scores and/or performance is marginal. One thing to note, if you want to do a massive overhaul you&#039;re better off restructuring gradually rather than all at once. That way the loss in temporary quality score history will not be as dramatic for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Restructuring your account is something you should do if you have low quality scores and/or performance is marginal. One thing to note, if you want to do a massive overhaul you&#8217;re better off restructuring gradually rather than all at once. That way the loss in temporary quality score history will not be as dramatic for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/how-does-moving-a-keyword-effect-your-quality-score-in-google-adwords/comment-page-1/#comment-46692</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Niyaz: You shouldn&#039;t settle for mediocre performance. But as I said in the article, you&#039;ll see some fluctuations in your performance but overall, a re-structure will be beneficial. Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Niyaz: You shouldn&#8217;t settle for mediocre performance. But as I said in the article, you&#8217;ll see some fluctuations in your performance but overall, a re-structure will be beneficial. Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Niyaz</title>
		<link>http://www.ppchero.com/how-does-moving-a-keyword-effect-your-quality-score-in-google-adwords/comment-page-1/#comment-46651</link>
		<dc:creator>Niyaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to suggest everybody not to touch the ad groups and campaigns if its performing average, the reason i have experienced in many campaigns after re-structuring the campaigns, the results i mean conversions are reduced in many of my campaigns. 

With your information, planing to start my ignition again for re-structuring the campaigns. Lets see..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to suggest everybody not to touch the ad groups and campaigns if its performing average, the reason i have experienced in many campaigns after re-structuring the campaigns, the results i mean conversions are reduced in many of my campaigns. </p>
<p>With your information, planing to start my ignition again for re-structuring the campaigns. Lets see..!</p>
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